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Old Mar 11, 2008, 10:33 AM // 10:33   #181
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A lot of warriors are terrible players. Then again, it applies for every game I've ever played with a warrior. Barbarians in Diablo 2, Warriors in this...
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Old Mar 11, 2008, 11:14 AM // 11:14   #182
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imo a bad player is someone who trolls pve outposts about how they pwn all in pvp and then get bitch slapped in pvp by pve players, then QQ about how theyre gonna get someone banned who they lost to and put together armor sets like this
oops i didnt black out the name fully

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Old Mar 11, 2008, 11:38 AM // 11:38   #183
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imo a bad player is someone who trolls pve outposts about how they pwn all in pvp and then get bitch slapped in pvp by pve players, then QQ about how theyre gonna get someone banned who they lost to and put together armor sets like this
oops i didnt black out the name fully
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Old Mar 11, 2008, 12:14 PM // 12:14   #184
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A bad player is one who doesn't try to get better. Either they don't think there's room for improvement or they lack the capacity to learn from their mistakes.
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Old Mar 11, 2008, 01:38 PM // 13:38   #185
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A lot of warriors are terrible players. Then again, it applies for every game I've ever played with a warrior. Barbarians in Diablo 2, Warriors in this...
That's the problem with being a warrior. Everyone, even my guild, has had bad experiences with Warriors, so they're kind of scared when they see me running my warrior, which happens to be my favorite class.

The bad warriors are usually the ones you find standing in the outposts spamming "TANK LFG" "WORRIER LFG" "LFG LFG TAKE ME U NOOBS" and all of the good warriors have already gone into the mission/dungeon.

I don't even play my Warrior for tank&spank, most of the time I'm sword DPS with maybe... one or two defensive skills, depending on what zone I'm in. It may be my job to make sure that monsters don't go for the backline, but it's not my job to mitigate damage. That's what the prot monk (Prot monk, not bonder) is for.

Another good example of bad players are the ones who adhere to tank&spank like flies to flypaper. They're too afraid to do anything new even in an easy area like FoW, so they just stick to what they heard works - ob flesh tank (overkill for FoW) 4 nukers, one heal monk, one bonder monk (again, overkill for FoW... and shatter enchantment > bonders) and a BiP (just to keep the bonder happy). My guild and I have gone in with groups like... a warrior, paragon, a few necros, two monks, and a mesmer... without any nukers, we still do fine and we have even more fun because we don't stick to what's been tried and done so many times it's disgusting.

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Old Mar 11, 2008, 06:32 PM // 18:32   #186
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People who feel the need for a tank.
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Old Mar 11, 2008, 07:00 PM // 19:00   #187
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Imo... You got BK's... (Bad Kids, just shortened it a little) These types of players don't listen, don't help, and generally seem to be doing everything within their ability to screw you and your group/team over. Then you got Noob's. Newbs. Newbies. N00bs. And any other retarded variation you have. They seem to be screwing up alot, but they just don't know better. They learn and listen, or they become BK's.
The BK is the worst type of player to encounter because they are actively working against you, and generally succeed. Seeing as it is so easy to screw up a team.
You want the WOrSt players in guildwars... Well that's what they are. BK's. They tend to sit in the BK lounge and eat Junior Whoopers because they are so pathetic and what not.
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Old Mar 11, 2008, 07:45 PM // 19:45   #188
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A lot of warriors are terrible players. Then again, it applies for every game I've ever played with a warrior. Barbarians in Diablo 2, Warriors in this...
The problem is, warriors are a popular class. Almost EVERYBODY makes a warrior. It is a common first class for people to start out with. People just think swords/axes are cool. Thus there are a lot of "newbs" (not noobs) who play as warriors, so a bad perception sticks (generally on Wammos).
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Old Mar 11, 2008, 09:11 PM // 21:11   #189
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It is a common first class for people to start out with. People just think swords/axes are cool. Thus there are a lot of "newbs" (not noobs) who play as warriors, so a bad perception sticks (generally on Wammos).
Nah. It's not that swords and axes are considered cool - it's more that the melee fighter-type in most games is usually seen as simpler and therefore better for beginners to use to learn the basics (where things are, which monsters you should always just run from, storyline path, etc., etc.) of the game with.
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Old Mar 11, 2008, 09:49 PM // 21:49   #190
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A bad player is somebody who doesn't learn from his mistakes and doesn't want to.

This is usually compounded by the fact that he's likely to be a prick.
I'm sticking with this.
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Old Mar 11, 2008, 10:53 PM // 22:53   #191
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a bad player is a person who thinks 1v1 scrimming is what makes you pro.
anyone who calls themselves pro at a game, unless they get payed to play.
anyone who calls someone a noob for blinding a warrior or blocking their attack chain.

that is a bad player.
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Old Mar 12, 2008, 12:48 AM // 00:48   #192
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A bad player is a player who can't beat the game in normal mode. Easy as that, no need for all these complicated definitions.
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Old Mar 12, 2008, 04:59 AM // 04:59   #193
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A bad player is a player who can't beat the game in normal mode. Easy as that, no need for all these complicated definitions.
because this definition hold so much validity in a Player vs Player setting...
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Old Mar 12, 2008, 12:03 PM // 12:03   #194
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PvP isn't the entire game, Yichi, nor even a big part of it for many people.
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Old Mar 12, 2008, 01:21 PM // 13:21   #195
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Bad Player = anyone with one of the below:

- no sense of humor
- intolerant of imperfection
- intolerant of people who "know less" than they do
- unkind
- Unwilling to help others
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Old Mar 12, 2008, 02:12 PM // 14:12   #196
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Another good example of bad players are the ones who adhere to tank&spank like flies to flypaper. They're too afraid to do anything new even in an easy area like FoW, so they just stick to what they heard works - ob flesh tank (overkill for FoW) 4 nukers, one heal monk, one bonder monk (again, overkill for FoW... and shatter enchantment > bonders) and a BiP (just to keep the bonder happy)..
I still see groups like this forming in ToA (amid the R10 URSAN LFG chatter). The fastest and most enjoyable runs I've completed in FoW had no tank, one HB monk, one smiting monk, one para, a mesmer or two, a couple of eles, and Livia as MM (she's quick at grabbing those corpses). Having a tank forces the team to go into "mob aggro and nuke" mode, which slows things down.

OT: A bad player is someone who gets through the missions/quests/etc. by riding on the coattails of very good players, then boasts about how "leet" they are to anyone who will listen.
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Old Mar 12, 2008, 02:40 PM // 14:40   #197
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My definitions of bad players:

Someone said it before, but people who sit around saying they can pwn you in pvp, but they never can.

Unfortunately a lot of warriors are noobs, and its frustrating dealing with them in groups. I've seen a lot more noob warriors then any other class.

People who just spam lots of cussing, or have innapropriate behavior in the local chat, whcih is why I always turn mine off now.

People who don't listen to directions in a group, and end up making us lose because they did something stupid.

Those are a few. I don't do a lot of pvp, but in ab's and Fort Aspenwood, leechers get annoying...I concider them very bad.

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OT: A bad player is someone who gets through the missions/quests/etc. by riding on the coattails of very good players, then boasts about how "leet" they are to anyone who will listen.
Oh yeah, and that too for sure.
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Old Mar 12, 2008, 03:24 PM // 15:24   #198
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It all depends on what you value.

For me:
Bad players =
1. People with bad attitudes.
2. People who like to cause other people pain and grief.
3. People who try and take advantage of you.
4. People who are too lazy to do for themselves and want others to do for them.

Good players =
1. Friendly, helpful, considerate, generous.
2. Like a challenge, like to learn.
3. Have a good sense of humor, don't take things too dang serious.
4. Don't think they are better than everyone else.
x2. very true.
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